Thursday, March 17, 2011

UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered







The purpose of this page is to show you how well different GPUs perform in modern games, as well as where they place in terms of performance in comparison to others. I also have explanations for each different class of video card.






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--Click Here for an easy way to find out if your GPU will run a certain game:

http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/referrer/srtest



Video memory is not that important, stop asking if 512MB is better! Please see FAQ question #1



--YOU CANNOT UPGRADE YOUR GRAPHICS CARD!

Upgrading a Graphics Card? <<<Read Before Posting>>>



--Benchmarks for almost ALL mobile video cards can be found here.



--A detailed explanation on how games are "rendered" - great read!






Video Card comparison







































What are Integrated Graphics Processors (IGPs)? They are a simple graphics controller located on the motherboard. IGPs (with few exceptions) do not have their own memory and cannot play complex 3D games. Integrated graphics cards are not for gaming – office work, DVD watching, and web surfing is near the limit of their capabilities. They can be found in almost any size notebook, from those with a 10.6” screen to 17”. Advantages of an IGP include low power consumption and virtually no heat.



Although IGP performance is for the most part irrelevant, they are rated below from lowest-performing to highest:


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Intel GMA900

Intel GMA950

Intel GMA X3100

Intel GMA X4500

Nvidia GeForce 8200M

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3200

Nvidia GeForce 9400M

Nvidia GeForce G102M

Nvidia GeForce G105M

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200


The Nvidia GeForce 9400M is the fastest integrated GPU on the market, followed by the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3200. Put in perspective, the HD 3200 is about as fast as a dedicated Nvidia GeForce 8400M-GS in some modern games. The 8200M is also quite fast, almost matching a Go7400 (special thanks to forum member R4000 for submitting information about this GPU).

The Intel X4500 is a new integrated GPU that comes with the latest Intel 'Montevina' Centrino 2 platform. It is noticeably faster than the previous X3100, but still not up to par with ATI's and Nvidia's integrated GPUs, especially when it comes to game compatibility.



Mobility Radeon HD 3200 Benchmarks

Pulp's guides show what IGPs are capable of!

Intel GMA X3100 Graphics Performance Review

GeForce Go6150 Review

Nvidia 7150M Integrated Graphics Card Review





IGPs have no memory of their own – they borrow it from the main system memory. Some IGPs have their own dedicated memory but it is not common.


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Even if you are a non-gamer, it is sometimes worth it to get a dedicated video card. A dedicated video card can handle high-definition video decoding, significantly reducing the processor's workload. In addition, it is better to have a dedicated GPU for driving external displays and HDTVs since they will have better performance.



Low-end video cards can be found in notebooks of all sizes. If you are looking for an ultraportable (12” and less), then you probably won't get a dedicated card and don't want one anyway since small notebooks with dedicated video cards can get quite warm, and they drain power.



From lowest to highest performance:


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Nvidia GeForce 9200M-G/GS

Nvidia GeForce 8400M-G/GS

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2400

Nvidia GeForce 9300M-G/GS

Nvidia GeForce 9400M-G

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470





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Now we're talking. Hardcore gamers and those looking for the best visual experience in a 15" or smaller notebook should target these cards. They can be found in anything from a 14” to a 17” notebook, and have ample power to play the latest games at the highest settings or close to it. Power consumption is higher than that of the mid-range cards, but still balanced. It is not hard to find a notebook with one of these cards that still has good (2.5+ hours) battery life.



From lowest to highest performance:


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Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GS

Nvidia GeForce 9500M-G

Nvidia GeForce G210M

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4530

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 DDR2

Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GT DDR2/9500M-GS DDR2 (same card)

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 2600 GDDR3

Nvidia GeForce 9600M-GS

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 DDR2

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570

Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GT GDDR3

Nvidia GeForce 9600M-GT DDR2/9650M-GT DDR2

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 GDDR3

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4570

Nvidia GeForce 9600M-GT GDDR3

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3670

Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT/9650M-GS (same card)

Nvidia GeForce GT 130M

Nvidia GeForce 9700M-GT

Nvidia GeForce GT 230M

Nvidia GeForce GT 240M


The Nvidia 9500M-GS and the 9650M-GS are not actually anything new, merely die shrinks of the current 8600M-GT and 8700M-GT respectively; everything else down to the clocks themselves are the exact same. They are nothing to get excited about and offer basically no performance increase over the existing cards. Why Nvidia is passing them off as a new generation is unknown.



The 8600M-GT is significantly faster than the 8600M-GS - the main difference between them is that the -GT has double the stream processors. See benchmarks for these cards here. Both of these cards are DirectX 10 compliant. The Nvidia 8400M-GT is in a different class than the 8400M-GS because it has a 128-bit memory bus. It is a fast card, just under the Go7600/X1600.

I have classified the 8700M-GT as a performance card because it has a 128-bit memory bus. A true high-end card has a 256-bit bus.



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If you are looking for the best possible 3D performance in a notebook, the below cards are the fastest out there. You won't find them in anything short of a 17” notebook. They have considerable power requirements and produce equally high amounts of heat, hence the 17” size notebook is needed to house a cooling system for them. High-end video cards can handle all the latest games at high resolutions and maximum settings.



From lowest to highest performance:


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Nvidia GeForce 8600M-GT SLI

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650

Nvidia GeForce 9700M-GTS

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670

Nvidia GeForce 8700M-GT SLI

Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GS

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4830

Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTS

Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTS

Nvidia GeForce GTS 160M

Nvidia GeForce GTS 250M

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870

Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTX/9800M-GT

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850

Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTX

Nvidia GeForce GTX 260M

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870

Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTS SLI

Nvidia GeForce GTX 280M

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 CrossFire

Nvidia GeForce 8800M-GTX SLI/9800M-GT SLI

Nvidia GeForce 9800M-GTX SLI

Nvidia GeForce GTX 260M SLI

Nvidia GeForce GTX 280M SLI

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4870 CrossFire


The best single cards are the ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4850/4870 and the Nvidia GeForce GTX 260M/280M. They can handle all of the latest games with ease.




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This chart ranks every current notebook GPU's performance from least at the top to greatest at the bottom.


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Reply 1 : UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

Thanks Chaz. Now we have some link to post when people ask! Great.



Cheers,



Edit: as I can see the links above now, and to clean the thread i removed the links that were here before.

Reply 2 : UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

very nice



and i find that my x700 fits exactly where u say



15.4" medium sized notebook, portable but can still play all games at decent settings.

Reply 3 : UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

nice post chaz



i dunno if the last generation of x700s and x600s were shader 3.0 but its nice to see that the x1600s will finally be, used ati for my last two cards and it was just annoying trying to play madden on my 9800pro on my desktop and gettin 10 fps

Reply 4 : UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

Very useful post, Chaz, thanks.

Reply 5 : UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

yeah that was cool well done, but do you think that you could add to how the mobile gpus compaire with there desktop counterparts?

i know its in other threads but it would be cool to have it all in the same place

Reply 6 : UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

It's about time! Great work Chaz!



There seem to be a lot of threads on integrated graphic cards, so you might be saving yourself some future trouble if you add a little paragraph on them

Reply 7 : UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

You are welcome guys. Yeah veon - tonight, I'll see if I can type up a small section for integrated cards . . not that they really belong in here, but you're probably right that it would save me some trouble.



Redfrog - about the comparison to desktop cards. That could be a bit difficult, but I will see what I can do.



bobz99 - the X700 was a Shader 2.0b card, whereas the new X1000 series is Shader 3.0.



Cheers

Reply 8 : UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

yea i wasnt sure of that because it doesnt explicitly say that on the ati site but i was sure i read that somewhere that the x700 was a shader 2.0b. thanks for the clarification

Reply 9 : UPDATED - The Mobile Graphics Card Info Page - Most GPU Qs answered

Good info...the realm of GPUs is getting more confusing everyday...one question though; you left out the 200M...most mainstream AMDs offer that unless you start moving up; is that such a poor performer to not even mention it. Thanks.

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